Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Chaoborus obscuripes

Posted by Philipp Wenzl on 10-06-2015 10:50
#1

Hi!

I have a few Chaoborus larva from a mountain region in Austria, and I am stuck between Ch.cristallinus and Ch.obscuripes.

Here are some pictures of the relevant features, thank you in advance for your help!

Philipp

Edited by Philipp Wenzl on 11-06-2015 11:49

Posted by Philipp Wenzl on 10-06-2015 10:51
#2

Labral blade

Posted by Philipp Wenzl on 10-06-2015 10:51
#3

Labral blade

Posted by Philipp Wenzl on 10-06-2015 10:51
#4

Labral blade

Posted by Philipp Wenzl on 10-06-2015 10:52
#5

And the rear end

Posted by Philipp Wenzl on 10-06-2015 11:01
#6

and the last.

Posted by atylotus on 10-06-2015 13:26
#7

I think this would be obscuripes, just because te lateral blade has no long extension at the posterior edge: see http://diptera.in...d_id=26703

Edited by atylotus on 10-06-2015 13:27

Posted by Philipp Wenzl on 10-06-2015 14:34
#8

The number of mandibular fan setae would fit obscuripes, too. Do you consider this a good distinguishing feature?
The obscuripes-mandible in Nillson,1997 looks not really like mine, though.
Philipp

Edited by Philipp Wenzl on 10-06-2015 14:36

Posted by atylotus on 11-06-2015 09:18
#9

In my opinion you have C. obscuripes for sure. In the Netherlands we have 4 species of Chaoborus which can easily be identified using the mandibular teeth and the labral fan only. I hardly use any other characteristic. In the beginning of my career (20 years ago) I sometimes use the shape of the anal papillae and the dorsal process of segment IX. In your case C. obscuripes fits for all the characters. A mandibular tooth intermediate exactly between the other teeth is a character typical for C. flavicans, but when fused with the middle tooth it is either one of the other species and cannot be used for identification anymore i.e. is of no diagnostic value anymore. In your specimen the labral fan is typical for obscuripes and in combination with the short and rounded almost globular dorsal abdominal process of segment IX this must be obscuripes. In cristallinus the dorsal process is pointed and the labral fan is more elongated.
I cannot say anything about the variability or stable characters of the other features mentioned in Saethers’ papers like the mandibular or anal fan, for I have never have to look at them.
I hope this helps.

Posted by Philipp Wenzl on 11-06-2015 11:50
#10

Thank you very much, this helps!

Philipp