Thread subject: Diptera.info :: unknown tachinid
#1
can anyone identify this possible tachinid. I think it might be one of the Gymnosoma (clavatum ?)
Size approx 8mm. Found on rough vegetation at Portsdown Hill, Hampshire.
Stuart
Posted by
Zeegers on 20-07-2007 15:33
#2
Hi Stuart
Pity we can see the frons.
It's too big for clavatum and it really looks like (note the formulation) as a female of G. nudifrons. Which is never recorded in the UK, as fas as I know.
DId you collect it. Or have pictures from front ?
Theo
Posted by
ChrisR on 20-07-2007 16:30
#3
Stuart told me that he didn't take a specimen BUT this photo reminds me of a female
Gymnosoma that was sent to me recently (see images below). It was taken slightly out of the normal range for
G. rotundatum and not on sand either. I have ruled out
clavatum on the genitalia but I'd appreciate your comments Theo.
Edited by
ChrisR on 20-07-2007 16:30
Posted by
ChrisR on 20-07-2007 16:31
#4
close-up of frons...
Posted by
Zeegers on 20-07-2007 16:57
#5
This is 100 % NOT nudifrons.
As far as I can tell from the pic, it's a typical female rotundatum.
Despite the atypical locality.
Theo
Posted by
ChrisR on 20-07-2007 17:19
#6
Ahh, no problem ... a slight range extension then and a different habitat to the norm, but nothing new then
Would
nudifrons have an entirely black, undusted frons?
Edited by
ChrisR on 20-07-2007 17:22
Posted by
Zeegers on 20-07-2007 19:43
#7
Yep, and slightly more smoky wings than in rotundatum.
Both are suggested by Stuart's picture, however, I stress suggested.
Theo
#8
Hello Chris and Theo
Thanks for your advice on this pic.
Stuart
Posted by
Zeegers on 21-07-2007 09:55
#9
Well Stuart,
DID you collect it ?
Theo
#10
No Theo, I did not take a specimen.
I took only 3 pictures, none of which showed the frons.
Stuart
Posted by
Zeegers on 22-07-2007 10:10
#11
Pity. Maybe next time.
It amazed me that you in the UK have not found G. nudifrons yet.
You must have it, somewhere. So keep looking !
Theo