Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinidae, Gymnosoma? from Romania

Posted by cosmln on 25-07-2007 09:28
#1

Hi,

last week succeded to make some photos on this Gymnosoma? , can be identified further?
Baile Herculane (limestone, Fagus forest, ~400 m). size aprox ~6mm.

thanks in advance,
cosmln

Posted by ChrisR on 25-07-2007 10:31
#2

Definitely Gymnosoma but I can't go any further than that because they are a very difficult genus - even with a specimen. The genitalia and the degree of dusting on the frons and the thorax are all very significant features when making an identification Smile

Posted by cosmln on 25-07-2007 13:08
#3

Chris Raper wrote:
Definitely Gymnosoma but I can't go any further than that because they are a very difficult genus - even with a specimen. The genitalia and the degree of dusting on the frons and the thorax are all very significant features when making an identification Smile


Hi Chris,

thanks for the answer.
no photo of genitalia, photo of frons exist but... anyway i have learned something.

cosmln

Posted by Zeegers on 25-07-2007 13:47
#4

AS Chris rightly put it, difficult to tell.
It does not look like rotundatum, more likely either clavatum or dolycoridis. However, this is guesswork and not science.
In any case, a male.

Theo

Posted by cosmln on 25-07-2007 14:19
#5

Zeegers wrote:
AS Chris rightly put it, difficult to tell.
It does not look like rotundatum, more likely either clavatum or dolycoridis. However, this is guesswork and not science.
In any case, a male.

Theo


Hi Theo & Chris,

again thanks for the help.
this the only photo from the face. maybe help if not... another try (maybe i will collect this fly).

cosmln

Posted by Zeegers on 26-07-2007 06:45
#6

This is definitely NOT rotundatum, but either dolycoridis or maybe clavatum. It helped, but the conclusion remeans the same.


Theo