Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Asilidae?
#1
ID! Israel. Kfar Vradim city. 32°59'49.13" N 35°16'27.76" E 2013-01-06 Thank you!

#2
A nice couple of Asilinae

They seem to belong to the Machimus group but we can't see enough.
#3
Quaedfliegh wrote:
A nice couple of Asilinae

They seem to belong to the Machimus group but we can't see enough.
OK! Thank you! There are more images of the same region. ID?:

Posted by
piros on 14-01-2017 10:23
#4
Femeles look like Engelepogon here:
http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=70138
Greetings,
Henrik
#5
It cannot be
Engelopogon with such a bristly mesonotum
Anyway the first set of pictures doesn't seem to be the same genus than the second one
#6
Lunchbreak : ) These creatures are Erax sp. Note antennae, the straight and narrow 3rd segment.
#7
Yes!! At least, clearly the second female fits nicely!
Perhaps it is my computer but I cannot see the antennae so clearly in the male and female first posted. And the mesonotum, looking so bare in those pictures, has completely fooled me. Alexander, could you post the pictures in higher resolution, please? It would be very interesting to see more detail.
It should be either
E. gracilis or
E. nigrosetosus. I am inclined to think it is
E. gracilis (through the microtrichae on the wings) but I would need to see more details to be certain. Perhaps any of you with a better quality computer can see more detail in those pictures. I simply cannot go further

#8
Coffeebreak : ) I dont think the first two are the same species as the last two. In asilidae lateral pictures are ususally more useful.
#9
Reinoud, I see, you were talking about the second set of pictures

That suits my first impression (see my 1rst post in this thread)
I would love to know your opinion when you have time, but focusing in the two pictures of female
Erax, I am rather convinced now of
Erax gracilis. I cannot see all details but I see pale bristles on the abdomen. To my understanding, that should rule out
Erax nigrosetosus...
#10
Thank you all very much! Offline limitations do not allow you to download full-size image.
#11
Quaedfliegh wrote:
Coffeebreak : ) I dont think the first two are the same species as the last two. In asilidae lateral pictures are ususally more useful.
OK! I'm going to do an image from a different angle. Thank you so much!
#12
Piluca_Alvarez wrote:
Yes!! At least, clearly the second female fits nicely!
Perhaps it is my computer but I cannot see the antennae so clearly in the male and female first posted. And the mesonotum, looking so bare in those pictures, has completely fooled me. Alexander, could you post the pictures in higher resolution, please? It would be very interesting to see more detail.
It should be either
E. gracilis or
E. nigrosetosus. I am inclined to think it is
E. gracilis (through the microtrichae on the wings) but I would need to see more details to be certain. Perhaps any of you with a better quality computer can see more detail in those pictures. I simply cannot go further

Thank you! I can send the full-size images by e-mail, but have not got it

#13
Alexander, sorry, I thought my e-mail was visible in my profile. That is solved now!
Anyway, here it is! pilucaaf@gmail.com
#14
Piluca_Alvarez wrote:
Alexander, sorry, I thought my e-mail was visible in my profile. That is solved now!
Anyway, here it is! pilucaaf@gmail.com
Thank you! I sent everything.