Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Chaoborus ID

Posted by solito de solis on 22-02-2017 20:05
#1

Hey dipterists
I have difficulties to determinate this larva
Collected and observed in a pond in Wallonie, Belgium
Size 7 mm length
Here are the pictures I have made extracting them from video file

rodredi.free.fr/chaob/chaola.jpg

rodredi.free.fr/chaob/chaof.jpg

rodredi.free.fr/chaob/chaols.jpg

rodredi.free.fr/chaob/chaoan.jpg

rodredi.free.fr/chaob/chaoann.jpg

It could be C. obscuripes or C.nyblaei

merci beaucoup

Edited by solito de solis on 22-02-2017 20:06

Posted by solito de solis on 22-02-2017 20:21
#2

rodredi.free.fr/chaob/chabo.jpg

Posted by Tony Irwin on 23-02-2017 11:46
#3

It's difficult to see the mandibular teeth in these photos, but it looks like they are extensively darkened, more than I would expect in flavicans. There appear to be 21 anal rays, so that would suggest this is crystallinus, rather than obscuripes.

Edited by Tony Irwin on 23-02-2017 11:46

Posted by solito de solis on 24-02-2017 09:32
#4

Hello Tony
thanks for your answer.
As I try to not kill the animals, it's sometimes difficult to collect the right feqtures. I have observed another specimen from the same sample
and I had success to make these pictures.
Would you please help more ?
Thank you

rodredi.free.fr/chaob/chaoma.jpg

rodredi.free.fr/chaob/chaoma2.jpg

SDS

Posted by Tony Irwin on 24-02-2017 14:58
#5

The last photo is excellent, and clearly shows the small central tooth firmly on the side of the larger one. this is typical of crystallinus and obscuripes, but excludes flavicans. The number of setae in the mandibular fan is unclear, but appears to be at least 12 so this might be obscuripes. It's not uncommon to have both species in the one pond.

Posted by solito de solis on 24-02-2017 23:41
#6

Thank you Tony
merci beaucoup
video will follow