Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Nycteribiidae - Penicillidia sp. ?

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 19-08-2007 21:27
#1
Hi

* locality - Alviela (caves) - Alcanena (?) - PORTUGAL
* date - 2007.08.18
* size - 4 mm (small fly)
* habitat - cave
* substrate - calcareous rock


Yesterday I went to visit a cave in Alviela with my friend Andr? Van Eck and others persons. We saw many bats, and these flies: Phoridae, Chironomidae, Culicidae, Calliphoridae (the favourite for Meta/Metellina spiders in caves), Medetera spp. (many!), and.... finally the Nycteribiidae! Smile (sorry, cosmnlSmile

Here goes the photo I took. I hope that this photo can show us the possible genus!

EDIT---> Title changed from "Nycteribiidae! - bat fly. Smile" to "Nycteribiidae - Penicillidia sp." then "Nycteribiidae - Penicillidia sp. ?" (to confirm..)
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 21-08-2007 17:14

Posted by Zeegers on 20-08-2007 07:44
#2
Well, 4 mm. is a giant in the Nycteriibidae universe.

Again (see Roumanian specimen), I guess it might be Penicillidea.

Theo

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 20-08-2007 20:03
#3
Penicillidia sp. I think. Smile
Thanks Theo! Smile
Yes, it is a huge fly considering the family! Smile That?s why it was so easy to spot the fly. Smile

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 21-08-2007 10:40
#4
Theo, do you have the key for Penicillidia genus?

we have:

P. conspicua Speiser, 1901
P. dufourii (Westwood, 1835)
P. pumilla Scott, 1914 (??)

Posted by Andre on 21-08-2007 13:06
#5
Hi Jorge. I count these caves to the village of Monsanto Smile
Great picture, really!

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 21-08-2007 13:28
#6

Alives? Smile
Monsanto... hmm. I must go there! Smile

What did you see more? Smile

Posted by Zeegers on 21-08-2007 16:40
#7
Oh, I'm just guessing.

First let's fix the genus.
I think I use the monograph by Rothschild.
I'll come back to this


Theo

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 21-08-2007 17:13
#8
Grin ok. It would be great to be sure, at least for genus! Smile
very soon I will visit caves again. Wink

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 14-09-2007 23:12
#9
any news about this one, Theo? I can wait, though. Wink No need for hurry. Just to remember.

Posted by Zeegers on 15-09-2007 08:24
#10
I have a key alright, but I would need to see the specimens.
Can't give an ID from the picture.

Sorry


Theo

Posted by Andrew Whittington on 15-09-2007 08:45
#11
Whatever it's name, it must be a sure winner for the ugliest fly in the world contest Grin

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 15-09-2007 22:23
#12
hmmm... I will try to back there to catch more nycteribiids.
Thanks.



Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 04-01-2009 19:12
#13
So... anyone can add any about this nycteribiid?

Theo, what I must looking for in this beast?

Posted by Zeegers on 05-01-2009 19:39
#14
Whether there are ocelli and whether one ocellus has 1 or 2 (really !!) lenses ....

So we really need the specimens, I'm afraid, at least I do.


Theo