Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Sargus cuprarius?

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 23-08-2007 11:47
#1

Mosc reg., 23 Aug, forest, 9mm

Posted by Tony Irwin on 23-08-2007 14:02
#2

It appears to lack the postocular fringe, so I think it's more likely to be flavipes

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 23-08-2007 17:55
#3

Thank you Tony.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 24-08-2007 13:51
#4

Hi again, Tony.
Now I have better image. Examining collected flies, I think it is same as previos. This time on pasture, on cow dung.
Nikita

Posted by Tony Irwin on 24-08-2007 20:38
#5

Nice pics, Nikita!
These clearly show the wider frons typical of flavipes and rufipes females, which (together with bipunctatus) lack the continuous fringe of erect pale hairs arount the occiput (back of the head).
S. albibarbus, cuprarius and iridatus have the fringe and a narrower frons.
The large female of bipunctatus has a pair of orange spots at the base of the abdomen (seldom absent), but the differences between flavipes and rufipes are more subtle. The lower pictures appear to be flavipes, but I wouldn't like to say for sure without seeing specimens. Wink

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 24-08-2007 20:44
#6

Great photos. specially the last two! Vivid and metallic colours are not easy subject to photograph! Congratulations, Nikita!

Did you put a mask on the face? Grin lol

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 24-08-2007 21:12
#7

1. Thank you Tony. My impression (regarding material) - was that this hair present all occiput long, though shorter in central part. But I haven't material to compare. Hope to do it next Monday.
2.
Did you put a mask on the face?

you will never find Dryomyza flaveola GrinGrinGrin

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 24-08-2007 21:48
#8

Is it a challenge?? Pfft Are you defying me?
Grin

You are in lucky. It will rain here this weekend. Sad

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 24-08-2007 21:58

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 04-09-2007 23:39
#9

Tony, I compared with Museum material.
You was quite right - S.flavipes
Thanks again, Nikita

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 16-10-2007 17:21
#10

Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
1. Thank you Tony. My impression (regarding material) - was that this hair present all occiput long, though shorter in central part. But I haven't material to compare. Hope to do it next Monday.
2.
Did you put a mask on the face?

you will never find Dryomyza flaveola GrinGrinGrin



Nikita... I found my first Dryomyzidae! Grin Thanks for putting the challenge! Any more suggestions? Grin Grin Obs: I didn't need any mask. Wink

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 16-10-2007 17:40
#11

Any more suggestions?

I have some.
This season turkish people can see a strange vacancy acting of two forien tourists. The rented car stoped near dead cat (or hedjehog), tourists (Andrey Ozerov and me) put carrion in the car and go out.
We had got not bad results this way Grin

Posted by Susan R Walter on 16-10-2007 17:44
#12

You'll get arrested Pfft And the hire car company won't be happy if they find out Shock

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 16-10-2007 17:59
#13

lol Grin crazy guys indeed. Smile

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 16-10-2007 18:01
#14

Susan R Walter wrote:
You'll get arrested Pfft And the hire car company won't be happy if they find out Shock


unless Nikita had bought lots of Channel 5. Grin

Posted by Tony Irwin on 16-10-2007 20:48
#15

If Nikita wears too much Chanel No.5 in Turkey, he'll get arrested anyway! Grin

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 16-10-2007 21:11
#16

lol Tony! Smile Indeed. Wink