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Thread subject: Diptera.info :: 3mm Braconidae? -> Braconinae Sp. ?

Posted by Ray Perry on 05-10-2017 20:09

Can somebody please ID this or at least confirm that it is Braconidae.
body 3-4mm, horn 2-3mm
feeding on yarrow blossom. 15.50pm, 12th Sept. 2017, Flensburg, Germany.

More detail might be seen on the video:-
https://www.youtu...1wGjp7Cc80

(I removed Siricidae from the subject request after Jürgen pointed out that it's too small to be one.)

Edited by Ray Perry on 26-10-2021 14:37

Posted by Ray Perry on 05-10-2017 20:15

from above

Posted by Ray Perry on 05-10-2017 20:17

venation

Posted by Ray Perry on 05-10-2017 20:18

long antennae.

Posted by Tony Irwin on 05-10-2017 20:23

Not Siricidae - I'd say Braconidae

Posted by Ray Perry on 05-10-2017 20:26

Thanks Tony, I was wondering about that possibility and that's why I showed the image with the waist.
Ray

Posted by Juergen Peters on 06-10-2017 05:35

Hello Ray,

Ray Perry wrote:
I was wondering about that possibility

Siricidae are large to very large wasps. Urocera gigas, the largest Hymenoptera of central Europe, belongs to the Siricidae. You won't find a Siricid with a length of 3-4 mm, more likey 30-40 mm.

Posted by Ray Perry on 06-10-2017 11:54

Thanks Jürgen,
So would you also guess at Braconidae? Any suggestion as to the Subfamily?
Warm Regards
Ray

Posted by Ray Perry on 06-10-2017 22:25

Could this be Atanycolus Sp. ?

Posted by Juergen Peters on 07-10-2017 04:21

#10

Ray Perry wrote:
Could this be Atanycolus Sp. ?

Looks more like Bracon sp..

Posted by Ray Perry on 07-10-2017 08:43

#11

Thanks Jürgen

Yes, I thinks that's it - a great help

it matches other images of Bracon Sp. on the internet.

Below is a similar looking male of what I think is also Bracon Sp.
On broccoli flower buds in my garden.
15.47pm, 21st Sept. 2017. Flensburg, Germany.

You can see he has no ovipositor when he goes into flight at the end of this video:-
https://www.youtu...l6QZ2eokjo

Best Regards
Ray