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Posted by Reimund Ley on 01-12-2017 14:00

ist the identifikation of this fly correct?
It was about 6-8mm, found in Germany, Marl, altitude 55m, 4. 9. 2017

greetings

Angelika/Reimund

Edited by Reimund Ley on 05-01-2018 20:11

Posted by Sundew on 01-01-2018 19:29

The frons seems less inflated, so most probably a male Pipiza and not a Heringia. That does not help much, as the genus is regarded as one of the most intractable because of the high variability of the species. It MIGHT be P. austriaca IF there are ridges on the underside of the hind femora (impossible to see in the pics). So I do not dare to say more than Pipiza spec.
Happy New Year and best wishes, Sundew

Posted by Reimund Ley on 01-01-2018 19:39

hello Sundew,

thanks for your answer,
if we meet this fly again we try to get fotos of the hind femora for a propper ID,
we called the fly Pipiza sp.

also a happy new year to Berlin

Angelika/Reimund

Posted by Reimund Ley on 02-01-2018 19:50

hello Robert,

thanks a lot for your answer,
you mean we can call this fly Pipiza cf. austriaca?

greetings and a happy new year

Angelika/Reimund

Posted by Robert Zoralski on 05-01-2018 07:33

Probably most of Pipiza's determined from pictures should have "cf."

And also 1/10 of determined directry from specimens...

That's a genus of extremely high intraspecific variability with also some characters overlapping between species and, as you could imagine, in consequence in a very bad condition taxonomically...

When seeing hundreds of Pipiza's every year, I have consistent feeling that current concept is worse than it was 100 years ago. Problem is complex. Not sure anyone can solve this puzzles nowadays on the Palearctic level due to specific of this genus.

R.

Edited by Robert Zoralski on 05-01-2018 07:34

Posted by Reimund Ley on 05-01-2018 20:10

#10

hello Robert,

thanks for your answer to indentify this fly,
we put this sweety with the name Pipiza cf. austriaca in our homepage.

best wishes

Angelika/Reimund