Thread subject: Diptera.info :: New World Nephrotoma (ID John Carr)!; SW Spain

Posted by Andre Burgers on 02-10-2018 19:28
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Two lovers in the bushes.


¡Saludos! TumbsUp
Edited by Andre Burgers on 02-10-2018 21:01

Posted by John Carr on 02-10-2018 20:33
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One of the New World Nephrotoma species recently found in Spain.

Posted by Andre Burgers on 02-10-2018 21:00
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Well well. Didn't expect that. And less in this village far from the main routes.
But apparently no problem for this couple, busy making a numerous offspring.

Thanks, John!!! TumbsUp

Posted by Andre Burgers on 02-10-2018 21:55
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John,

Could it be Nephrotoma ferruginea ?


https://bugguide.net/node/view/134047
Edited by Andre Burgers on 02-10-2018 21:55

Posted by John Carr on 03-10-2018 01:58
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See comment here: https://diptera.i...ost_329327

Quoting Pjotr Oosterbroek:

"N. ferruginea is known from southern Spain and N. s. wulpiana from Spain (Valencia) and Portugal (Algarve).
N. ferruginea has two small spots at the upper side of the lateral thorax (fig. 5 in Oosterbroek 1984, PDF also available). N. s. wulpiana has only the upper one (as on the two above photo on Diptera-info).
In N. s. wulpiana the posterior end of the mid-dorsal thoracic stripe is darkened and continues into the thoracic suture."

Posted by Andre Burgers on 03-10-2018 08:42
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Thanks again, John!

I found some perfect photos of both species, but I am not sure what black spot we are talking about to separate the two species.

https://diptera.info/photogallery.php?photo_id=10565
https://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?act=zoom&img=/DL/IM/I_HHGA/0002/640/Nephrotoma_ferruginea_m,I_HHGA277.jpg?449,208

And I include cropped photo of my specimen. Not perfect because I couldn't get any nearer.