Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Sturmia bella? Jerusalem October 10
#1
Chris Raper, you need to fix your site - Picture windows are frozen sized, and usually in the wrong size.
Dorsal view:
#3
Lateral view:
Oh, and it's a female, right?
Posted by
Zeegers on 10-10-2007 19:01
#4
It's a female, it looks 'Sturmiin?' and it might be Sturmia bella.
However, there seems to be a second reclinate orbital.
So I'd need the specimen to be more sure.
Theo
#5
Impossible, I'm afraid - This one should be sleeping somewhere in Jerusalem right now. If there are certain organs you need to see, perhaps I have suitable pictures.
Posted by
ChrisR on 10-10-2007 22:23
#6
Hmm, missing a foot and half the left wing so I'd say it's probably dead anyway by now
From what Theo said he needs a clearer view of the head - particularly the top, showing the arangement of brisles and hairs.
#7
Found a bunch more pictures of the specimen, so I compiled them into this. Perhaps this helps?
P.S.
I'm sure the big one is also of the same guy, not sure how it got so damaged...
Posted by
Zeegers on 31-10-2007 21:44
#8
Still the same: it should be Sturmia bella, but it has 2 reclinate orbitals. these things do happen.
Theo
#9
What do you mean by "these things do happen"? Are you talking about possible variation in the species, or that simply it cannot be identified?
And also: Do you mean there are two reclinate setae or two pairs of reclinate setae. In the lateral view of the head I find three pairs of them.
Posted by
Zeegers on 01-11-2007 21:18
#10
I ment the first: variation occurs, in this case espcialliy in females.
There are 2 pairs of reclinate orbitals. The large pair at the vertex is not counted as such, it is called inner vertical.
Theo
#11
Thank you for your explanations. I will go for Sturmia cf. bella then!