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Posted by WHoelzel on 11-08-2019 12:29

Hello,

Photo is a stack from 15 images.
Found in Messtischplatte: 7124 (Germany)
11.08.2019
Altitude: 530

Thank you and Kind Regards.

Edited by WHoelzel on 11-08-2019 16:33

Posted by johnes81 on 11-08-2019 16:19

Hello WHoelzel,

I don't know the genus but it is not Sarcophaga, so no it isn't S. carnaria.
I only know about Sarcophaga genus, so i cannot help any further.

Best wishes,
John

Posted by WHoelzel on 11-08-2019 16:25

Hello John,

thank you for your answer and your help.
Better I change the topic.

Kind regards,
Wolfram

Posted by johnes81 on 11-08-2019 16:34

Hello Wolfram,

I am happy to help.

Just to be clear: it is Sarcophagidae sp but not one from the genus Sarcophaga and particularly Sarcophaga (Sarcophaga).

I think that it could be a Ravinia sp (Sarcophagidae),

Best wishes,
John

Posted by johnes81 on 11-08-2019 16:48

Hello Wolfram,

i can't see any presutural acrostichals. Ravinia is supposed to have strong presutural acrostichals. Do you have any other angles of this female? preferably dorsal?

if this is a Ravinia sp, then there is only one species in the Old World:
Ravinia pernix. Maybe someone can confirm this or offer a better suggestion.

Best of luck,
John

Edited by johnes81 on 11-08-2019 16:48

Posted by WHoelzel on 11-08-2019 17:42

johnes81 wrote:
Do you have any other angles of this female? preferably dorsal?

No, unfortunately not. 3 different stack, but it seems the same ankle. I was so concentrated to make a perfect stack to forget to make other images.

Thank you for your help.

Posted by John Carr on 11-08-2019 18:02

The arrangement of lower frontal setae is different in Ravinia and Sarcophaga. The rows may be nearly parallel and ending near base of antennae (Ravinia) or abruptly divergent and continuing below base of antennae (Sarcophaga). Also, Ravinia does not have a strong row of parafacial setae near eye.

Posted by johnes81 on 11-08-2019 18:23

#10

John Carr wrote:
Also, Ravinia does not have a strong row of parafacial setae near eye.

Hello John, that is what i am trying to find with no luck.

Thanks for the info. I don't have much of a description for Ravinia so i'm a bit in the dark. Your post is very helpful.

So, Wolfram, i don't know what it could be. I lack knowledge of many Sarcophagidae. Perhaps someone will be able to recognize it. Meantime, i will continue trying to learn more about this family.

Best wishes,
John

Posted by WHoelzel on 11-08-2019 18:48

#11

Hi John & John!

Thank you very much for your help. I am really clueless of all the different Brachycera. I have also to google (ecosia) the termini you use and learn a lot.

Kind regards,
Wolfram