Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Helina ?

Posted by Pierre55 on 23-10-2007 19:10
#1
Can't do the difference between Helina and Phaonia...Sad
But if I have to choose, it would be Helina.
Right ?
Thanks in advance Smile

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 23-10-2007 19:16
#2
Phaonia sp. ..

Posted by Susan R Walter on 23-10-2007 19:16
#3
Don't think so. I think with that orange scutellum it's more likely to be Phaonia, but there are a couple of other Muscidae genera it could be too.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 23-10-2007 19:17
#4
another telepathy! Smile we must open a thread for telepathic cases. Smile

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 23-10-2007 20:26
#5
I would have said Mydaea corni...

Posted by Susan R Walter on 23-10-2007 21:14
#6
Stephane

Yes, I was thinking Mydaea as a possibility.

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 23-10-2007 21:25
#7
I'm still beginner in Muscidae, it's just my favourite family of the moment, so a confirmation would have been welcome Wink

Posted by Susan R Walter on 23-10-2007 22:06
#8
Sorry Stephane - don't know enough myself to confirm Wink but it was actually the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw the picture, and that can be a good sign, if a bit jizzy for some Pfft

Posted by Susan R Walter on 24-10-2007 12:48
#9
I think we need Uncle Jere to pronounce on this one please Smile

Posted by Pierre55 on 26-10-2007 19:12
#10
Anyone to confirm ? Smile

Posted by Xespok on 26-10-2007 21:07
#11
It certainly is very similar to M. corni. But for some strange reason I would still hesitate to name this a Mydaea. Somehow my feeling is that this fly belongs to Phaoniinae. Mydaea should have a shinier appearance.

Posted by Pierre55 on 26-10-2007 21:15
#12
If the count is correct, they are 3 people to name it Phaonia for 1 to Mydaea. Let's then go for Phaonia sp Smile

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 28-10-2007 17:02
#13
If the count is correct, they are 3 people to name it Phaonia for 1 to Mydaea. Let's then go for Phaonia

It is the case when 1 more than 3 Shock
We have 2 possibilities from 2 different subfamily Phaoniinae and Mydaeinae. Characters to separate this subfamilies are unvisible. But if Phaoniinae - than Ph.errans (5% Ph.valida), if Mydaeinae - M.corni. We can compare this two possible females. Scutellum of Ph.errans yellowish on tip and dusted on disk, disk of scutellum with stronger setae, abdomen rather greyish than yellowish dusted.
So, female of Mydaea corni.
Nikita

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 28-10-2007 23:07
#14
Many thanks for the confirmation Nikita. Wink

Posted by Pierre55 on 02-11-2007 17:41
#15
Also my thanks Nikita for the ID Smile
And congratulations to Stephane who was alone against the rest of the world...Grin