Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Two Phoridae

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 06-11-2005 15:18
#1

05 nov, Moscow, park, fallen leaf and dead wood, semi-freez - semi-active, 1-1,5mm.
Even if ID isn't possible, please, is it same species or two different?

www.diptera.info/forim/5-0949-1.jpg
www.diptera.info/forim/5-0949-2.jpg

Posted by Andre on 06-11-2005 16:29
#2

Looking at sexe (females), dustings of abdomen, color of fore-legs... I would call them different species.
Maybe the first picture may be the easiest to determine by a specialist (like Disney, or maybe by Paul?).
Anyone else who would like to grow to be a Phoridae-specialist?? Smile

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 06-11-2005 16:34
#3

Hi Andre.
You forgot Kahis, good specialist for "hopeless families".

Posted by Andre on 06-11-2005 16:44
#4

Ah, yeah, quit right! Shock

Posted by Kahis on 06-11-2005 23:37
#5

Hehe, more like hopeless specialist for good familiesWink

Sorry, cannot really help with these. Different species (note also color of palpi/proboscis), but which ones is probably impossible to say.

I did once write to prof. Disney and asked if he could confirm the identiify of a phorid new for Finland. He was very kind and did what I asked - as far as it is possible from a good photo. But he also said that he is very busy and he receives much more ID requests than he can handle so if the material isn't reared or obviously a new species, please ask somebody else. Sounds like a reasonable policy to me. Frown

Cheers,
Kahis

Posted by Andre on 07-11-2005 00:16
#6

That's a fair policy indeed.
Even better would be, to 'breed' some more Phorid-specialists around here... Kahis.... Wink
Guess Disney would be happy to support? haha
(don't feel pressed now Wink please )

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 07-11-2005 12:08
#7

Thank you Jere and Andre.
Bieng "old Dipterologist" you forget how important is to know that this fly is Phorida. I remember, as Jere explain me what is Phorida only 2 month ago. So I think that even available kit of 10 unknown Phoridae sp. is realy usefull for any newcomer in Dipterology.

Posted by Andre on 07-11-2005 12:16
#8

I am glad you put "old" between inverted comma's. Wink
Having a referencecollection can be very usefull indeed... Do you also collect them, or only take pictures?

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 07-11-2005 13:22
#9

I'm on the way to begin collectedSmile

Posted by Kahis on 07-11-2005 15:16
#10

Andre wrote:
I am glad you put "old" between inverted comma's. Wink


But I feel sooooo ***old*** - surely turning 30Shock marks the end of my useful lifetime.WinkWinkWink
I can feel my brain cells queueing for apoptosis.Sad

Sorry about the superabundance of smileys. Perhaps I'm not feeling that old after allCoolSmileWinkShockGrin

Playfully Yours,
Jere

Posted by Andre on 07-11-2005 16:41
#11

The reason why the suicide-rate in Finland is so high, does not apply to our dearest Jere? Very good, keep the spirit(s) up! Grin

Posted by Kahis on 07-11-2005 22:29
#12

Andre wrote:
The reason why the suicide-rate in Finland is so high, does not apply to our dearest Jere? Very good, keep the spirit(s) up! Grin


Uh oh yeah, the Finnish suicide rate. I promise I'll do my best to keep it from rising yet higherShock It's a good think I'm an ugly bugger and thus have no problem with womankindGrin, 'cause the ladies are what drives many men to suicide. Some people seem to think Romeo & Juliet is a DIY (do it yourself) guidebook Sad

Spirits of the bottle-stored kind have nothing to do with my previous posts. Scary as it is, that's what I'm like when soberShock. Which is pretty much all the time, never seen to point of being drunk. A glass of wine with good Italian food (like tonight) or a post-sauna beer is about the maximum for me.

OK, I'd better stop here, we may already have slipped slightly off-topic.

Cheers,
Kahis (who's feeling a bit tipsy after a perfect dinner and defenitely shouldn't be posting messages on any board)

Edited by Kahis on 08-11-2005 10:29

Posted by Andre on 08-11-2005 00:29
#13

The ladies? I thought the booze.
Well, if it's the ladies, one can always turn to the men (for women: visa versa). But you're right, we are slightly (but just slightly) getting off-topic... Grin
Long live the tipsy people! Where's MY booze now..............?
Ah!.. There it is....
Wink

Edited by Andre on 08-11-2005 00:30

Posted by Mario Langourov on 30-06-2006 09:38
#14

This is Megaselia berndseni: first picture - female, second - male; short costa, yellow halteres...Grin

Edited by Mario Langourov on 30-06-2006 09:50

Posted by Kahis on 30-06-2006 10:02
#15

GrinGrin

Wait, you ARE joking, aren't you?Shock

Posted by Jan Willem on 30-06-2006 10:06
#16

Jere wrote:
Wait, you ARE joking, aren't you?



That was exactly what I wanted to ask!

Jan Willem

Edited by Jan Willem on 30-06-2006 10:07

Posted by Mario Langourov on 30-06-2006 10:51
#17

No, I'm serious - for the male I'm sure! It's very characteristic.Wink

Posted by Kahis on 30-06-2006 10:58
#18

Impressive.

I am more than happy to shed my "phorid expert" coat and give it to someone who actually knows the family.

Posted by Mario Langourov on 30-06-2006 19:07
#19

I'll be very glad to check any Phoridae materials.Grin

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 30-06-2006 19:55
#20

Thank you Mario, very unpredictable ID.
I'll be very glad to send you soon a lot of material.
Nikita