Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Chamaepsila => C. atra

Posted by RamiP on 09-06-2020 17:16
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9.6.20 in Jyväskylä, Finland
atra or nigra or...?
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Edited by RamiP on 12-06-2020 13:39

Posted by RamiP on 09-06-2020 17:17
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Posted by Paul Beuk on 12-06-2020 10:20
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With apparently four pairs of dc I would suggest Chamaepsila atra.

Posted by RamiP on 12-06-2020 13:38
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Thanks Paul
It was my wish Smile

Raimo

Posted by Jocelyn Claude on 22-09-2022 11:55
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H, interesting case as black Chamaepsila are difficult!
I don't quite agree with Cha. atra, the latter must have 4dc whereas here there are obviously 3. Also: Tibia yellow and tarsus yellow but last tarsus dark. Femur black with pale knee. Body bristles brown to black. 3 dorsocentral (dc), many specimens have other dc but always shorter (1/2) than the three posterior ones. Wings hyaline => Chamaepsila nigra (Fallén, 1820)
Although there are other species in this group, Cha. atra and nigra are quite hard to separate, examination of genitalia can remove any doubts.
JOcelyn