Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Asilidae ??

Posted by Ruslan on 15-06-2020 19:12
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Ukraine, Kherson, steppe 13.06.2020. 8-13 ΠΌΠΌ.
Thanks in advance for the help in determining.
Edited by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:22

Posted by Ruslan on 15-06-2020 19:13
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Posted by Ruslan on 15-06-2020 19:13
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Posted by Chris Cohen on 16-06-2020 00:05
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This is Asilidae, but something less commonly encountered. Could you add a photo that clearly shows the wing venation, and a photo that clearly shows the apex of the anterior tibiae?

Posted by Chris Cohen on 16-06-2020 00:11
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Also, if you can, I would encourage you to collect more of these, especially some females.

I see it was collected in steppe. What was the microhabitat? What was it perching on?
Edited by Chris Cohen on 16-06-2020 00:15

Posted by Ruslan on 16-06-2020 12:28
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Chris Cohen, thank you very much!
I will photograph the drumstick and biotope tomorrow.

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 16-06-2020 23:19
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I don't know??? Something close to Heteropogon/Anisopogon? Sorry, I don't have a clue literally...

Posted by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:11
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female
Edited by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:18

Posted by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:12
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Posted by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:13
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Posted by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:14
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Posted by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:15
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Posted by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:16
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biotope
Edited by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:20

Posted by Chris Cohen on 17-06-2020 18:41
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Excellent work Ruslan!

I'm still working to ID this fly, but I can say for now that this is something very unusual.

Posted by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 19:06
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Should I put a few legs from these flies in alcohol for DNA? Smile

Posted by Chris Cohen on 17-06-2020 20:27
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How many specimens do you have? If you have an extra, I'd suggest throwing the entire specimen into 90-100% ethanol.

I don't want to get ahead of myself, but these may end up being type specimens so I would prefer at least 1 male and 1 female stay fully intact.

Posted by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 20:55
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6mm /4ff on needles already. But if necessary, I can take a few more for alcohol. They live at a distance of 800-900 meters from my garden. Smile

Posted by Chris Cohen on 17-06-2020 21:25
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Yes, if you can get a few fresh specimens into ethanol that would be very good (1-2 would be sufficient).

I'm assuming they perch/hunt from the vegetation?

Posted by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 21:34
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Yes, they sit exclusively on the grass. In the middle tier.

Posted by Ruslan on 30-06-2020 09:58
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Is a Cyrtopogon sp. possible?