Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Mystery family - Chloropidae! (Trichieurina pubescens)

Posted by Tony Irwin on 09-12-2020 13:04
#1

I’d appreciate a name (or even a family) for this fly – I’m sure I’ve seen it before, but can’t recall what it is! The photo was taken by József Káldi, on 15 March, near Győr in NW Hungary.

Edited by Tony Irwin on 09-12-2020 18:32

Posted by Jozef Obona on 09-12-2020 13:06
#2

Tony Irwin wrote:
I’d appreciate a name (or even a family) for this fly – I’m sure I’ve seen it before, but can’t recall what it is! The photo was taken by József Káldi, on 15 March, near Győr in NW Hungary.



No image ? Shock

Posted by Tony Irwin on 09-12-2020 13:08
#3

So long since I posted a picture - I had to remind myself of the rules!

Posted by Jozef Obona on 09-12-2020 13:12
#4

these are similar

https://diptera.info/photogallery.php?photo_id=8846

https://diptera.info/photogallery.php?photo_id=645

Posted by Jozef Obona on 09-12-2020 13:14
#5

or Trichieurina pubescens Smile

Posted by Tony Irwin on 09-12-2020 13:16
#6

Thanks, Jozef. Agreed the body and head shape is similar, but they are just not hairy enough!

Posted by Andrzej on 09-12-2020 13:25
#7

With all probability a Chloropidae. Looks like Trichieurina pubescens (https://insektari...pubescens/)

Posted by Tony Irwin on 09-12-2020 13:55
#8

Bless you, Andrzej! Mystery solved!

Posted by Tony Irwin on 09-12-2020 18:35
#9

And thanks, Jozef - I failed to see your second post!

Posted by Andrzej on 09-12-2020 18:55
#10

Two heads are better than one! Greetings from Southern Poland TumbsUp .

Posted by Xespok on 09-12-2020 19:01
#11

Thanx Andrzej, this fly haunter me for so long.

Posted by von Tschirnhaus on 14-12-2020 11:25
#12

Chloropidae, Chloropinae, Trichieurina pubescens (Meigen, 1830), originally described in Eurina, partly misspelled as Eurhina, transferred to Trichieurina by Duda 1932-1933 in Lindner; by Brischke (1890: 100) ordered in the family group name Sciomyzina. Read my post for https://diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=29190. Until today not yet published for the west of Germany or western Europe. All trials by me to find the host plant in places of east Germany [where it had been rarely collected by Hella Wendt and by Christian Kassebeer early in the year] were in vain. For anybody who could present me at least one male and one female for genitalia studies I would be very thankful. Anybody who caught it should note the exact geographical coordinates and all monocots around the locality (except the Poaceae), especially Carex spp. Larvae may possibly produce galls. Published countries of occurrence: Austria, Bulgaria, Central Asia, Czech Republic, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Kaliningrad Oblast of Russia, Moscow Region and other Russian northern and southern areas, Kyrgyzstan, Lithuania, Poland, Romania and Ukraine.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 14-12-2020 15:50
#13

Thank you for explanaition, Michael. One more task for early spring is always usefull.