Thread subject: Diptera.info :: vomitoria

Posted by Tony Irwin on 11-11-2006 17:07
#1

1, 2, 3, 5a, 5b, 6, 10 - vicina
4 - vomitoria
7, 8, 9 - loewi

Posted by Kahis on 11-11-2006 18:28
#2

No love for C. uralensis - or C. subalpina?

Posted by Xespok on 11-11-2006 20:29
#3

I think this individual is a female C. vicina. Am I right?

Edited by Xespok on 11-11-2006 20:31

Posted by Xespok on 11-11-2006 20:30
#4

Lateral view of the individual from the last posting.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 11-11-2006 20:33
#5

Cheek looks all grey - I think C. vomitoria.
Nikita

Posted by Xespok on 11-11-2006 20:34
#6

This is an enigmatic fly. I think this is not C. vicina. Is it C. uralensis? Another scenario is that this fly is not even Calliphora, but belongs to another genus.

Posted by Xespok on 11-11-2006 20:36
#7

A view from the top.

Posted by Tony Irwin on 12-11-2006 01:22
#8

Xespok - your first fly is Calliphora vicina. The anterior spiracle and the basicosta are pale, and I think the front of the genae are pale too. I can see no red hairs on the genae, so not vomitoria.
Your enimatic fly looks like Protocalliphora or a related species.
[By the way, it may be better to start a new thread with enigmatic flies - there's a danger of getting confused if there are too many species in a thread!]

Posted by pierred on 12-11-2006 16:15
#9

Nikita,

pierred wrote:
Is this also C. loewi? For me, this is whether C. vicina nor C. vomitoria.


My question was mainly about the white strip along the inner part of the eyes. But this should not be a criterion if I understand your answer.

Thanks anyway, as always.

Posted by markop on 01-05-2007 23:41
#10

So, I guess this is C.vomitoria then (reddish beard on dark gena)?

farm1.static.flickr.com/193/479624653_25238b97ec.jpg
(Clicking the photo will take you to flickr, where you can view all available sizes)

Edited by markop on 01-05-2007 23:42

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 01-11-2007 15:48
#11

Tony: Nikita - I think this is loewi. It would be good to have it in the gallery

I filled some doubts about my two years ago C.loewi images among this large post. This time I had two dead pigeons to check the situation. It is:
On broadleaf forest on very fresh carrion I collected C.loewi, when the carrion became older it replaced by C.vomitoria. Another Calliphoridae - Lucillia ampullacea was common either on fresh or old carrion.
Carrion near sea beach attracted C.vomitoria, L.ampullacea, L.illustris and a hell lot of Ch.albiceps
So, I regard ID of C.loewi as confirmed

Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 01-11-2007 15:49

Posted by Tony Irwin on 01-11-2007 18:38
#12

Excellent! Let's get those pictures in the gallery. Cool