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Wagneriini?
zcuc	#1 Posted on 14-12-2007 16:03
Member Location: Posts: 492 Joined: 08.10.07	Found in Israel. Edited by zcuc on 14-12-2007 20:55


zcuc	#2 Posted on 14-12-2007 16:05
Member Location: Posts: 492 Joined: 08.10.07	Dorsal view of wings. I had bad lighting condition, sorry for th eimage quality.


zcuc	#3 Posted on 14-12-2007 16:11
Member Location: Posts: 492 Joined: 08.10.07	It was the end of the day and I notice that all the flies were searching for a place to sleep inside cracks in a stony area. Almost any crack I checked contain a fly standing backwards with it's face to the exist. Edited by zcuc on 14-12-2007 16:14


Zeegers	#4 Posted on 14-12-2007 19:31
Member Location: Posts: 18446 Joined: 21.07.04	Great pictures ! It's not a Rhinohorid, but a Tachinidae, clearly in the tribe Wagneriini. Difficult group, but pictures are quite good. It's either Wagneria or Periscepsia, I'd say is Periscepsia, in which case it can only be P. handlirschi. I'm not sure if it completely fits this species, need to check my collection. Theo


zcuc	#5 Posted on 14-12-2007 20:53
Member Location: Posts: 492 Joined: 08.10.07	Zeegers, I'd collected one sp. so if you need me to check anything it is possible.


Zeegers	#6 Posted on 15-12-2007 09:33
Member Location: Posts: 18446 Joined: 21.07.04	Ok. Do you know the humeri, the 'shoulders' at the front of the thorax ? Question: are there either 2 large bristles on each humerus, 3 in a straight line or 3 in a clear triangle ? Theo


zcuc	#7 Posted on 15-12-2007 14:29
Member Location: Posts: 492 Joined: 08.10.07	Here an image


Zeegers	#8 Posted on 15-12-2007 16:39
Member Location: Posts: 18446 Joined: 21.07.04	There seem to be 2, also another feature is not consistent with Periscepsia. So it is Wagneria. Very difficult genus. I have little hope we can ID to species level. But I'll give it a try. Theo