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 which tiny fly with pollenia is this
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| miked |
Posted on 25-01-2008 11:07
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Lindisfarne, UK. July. It had just been on marsh helleborine in the sand dunes. |
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| Andre |
Posted on 25-01-2008 11:33
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Nemotelus, Stratiomyidae |
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| miked |
Posted on 25-01-2008 13:02
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Thanks for that. I will try to find out if Nemotelus has been found pollinating orchids before, seems likely that it has but will see if there are any references to it. |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 25-01-2008 14:02
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I think those very obvious pale triangles across the face make it N uliginosus , but the face doesn't seem quite projecting enough - may be the angle of the shot. Quite an interesting record if it is this species. I have just sent in my records to my County Recorder and he told me that they are usually found on Scentless Mayweed (which is where my specimen was). I'll double check Stubbs when I get home unless someone gives you a definitive answer re species in the meantime. Susan |
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| miked |
Posted on 25-01-2008 16:41
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I don't remember any scentless mayweed in the dune slacks (i have some photos of the habitat in general), just plenty of orchids and the nasty NZ piri piri bur. its quite a pleasant plant in NZ where it grows as odd plants but here it just takes over and grabs your socks and any other bits of clothing. |
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| Erik Nielsen |
Posted on 25-01-2008 17:24
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Something like that has occurred in Denmark http://www.fugleognatur.dk/forum/show_message.asp?MessageID=166958&ForumID=36 Best Regards Erik |
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| miked |
Posted on 25-01-2008 18:04
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Thanks very much, thats amazing the same species of orchid with the fly on the flower. |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 25-01-2008 22:27
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I've checked Stubbs (just as well I did!) and your fly is not N uliginosus, but the very similar N notatus. It is N notatus that has the distinctly triangular shape of the white patches on the face and a less projecting snout. N ulginosus has a more projecting snout and parallel bars on the face. You can clearly see the difference if you look at the link Erik provided, which is N uliginosus. Sorry my memory jumbled the characters earlier. Susan |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 26-01-2008 17:38
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Miked - it would be great if you would submit your photo to the gallery. Erik - do you think you could convince Jimmy Lassen to submit his photo too? Then we would have such good examples to compare the differences between these two very similar species. For those interested in the insect pollinators of orchids, this is a great site: http://www.orchid...que51.html Susan |
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| Erik Nielsen |
Posted on 26-01-2008 17:46
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Susan - I will try to convince Jimmy Lassen. Erik. |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 26-01-2008 18:21
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Thanks Erik - it's the second shot we want 
Susan |
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| Erik Nielsen |
Posted on 27-01-2008 02:16
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I know Susan. The picture is sent now. Erik. |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 27-01-2008 15:16
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Super. It is very kind of you and Jimmy to help.
Susan |
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but don't see the image in the post.