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 Another Tipulidae (not a Tipula I think)
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 27-05-2006 21:30
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May 27, 2005. Collected on the trunk of Betula. Wing length 9mm. |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 27-05-2006 21:31
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A dorsal total view. |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 27-05-2006 21:33
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And the abdomen's end dorsally/laterally. |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 27-05-2006 21:34
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Could this be the same species? On Filipendula, same location, May 25, 2006. |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 27-05-2006 22:56
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Hello, Black! No Tipulidae, I think, but Ptychopteridae. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 28-05-2006 10:30
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Hi Black, J?rgen thinks right, it is a Ptychopteridae. Could be Ptychoptera contaminata, but I have too little experience with Ptychopteridae to be sure about that. Jan Willem |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 29-05-2006 00:32
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Thanks a lot Juergen and Jan. So that's why I couldn't go anywhere with Tipulidae genus key... |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 29-05-2006 02:38
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Hello! Yesterday I found this one. Could be a female of the same species (?). Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Louis Boumans |
Posted on 05-01-2007 10:37
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I have Alan Stubss's key in front of me and it clearly identifies the pictures of the first specimen as P. contaminata. This key uses features of the venation at the base of the wing, whcih are visible here (but not in most other pictures of Ptychopteridae). Also the shape of the styles is distinctive, with the 'hearts' shaped space between them in contaminata. Therefore i think the second male is also contaminata; and also because contaminata and albimana are the commonest species, and the latter has whitish hind basal tarsi, best visible in females. So J?rgen's female is not albimana, and quite possibly contaminata too. Edited by Louis Boumans on 05-01-2007 10:40 |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 05-01-2007 20:34
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Thanks a lot for your confirmation Louis  . |
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but don't see the image in the post.