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Termite and wasp?????
jorgemotalmeida	#1 Posted on 12-11-2006 20:22
Member Location: Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06	Hi fly (and now HYM)forum too! ehe I took this one in Serra da Estrela not so far from Seia. This was took near the famous "Cabe?a da Velha". The one white is ISOPTERA - termite. But the other one intrigued me. I think that is a wasp because antenna doesn?t seem from an ant, and the eyes, and head format remember me more a wasp than an ant. what do you think? The termite has about 4 mm and wasp about 1 mm. Indeed, I just realize that wasp in photo!!!!! not there???!!!! Please see this fantastic duo. of course, we will need to see it bigger: http://www.flickr...509&size=l Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 12-11-2006 20:24


cthirion	#2 Posted on 12-11-2006 22:06
Member Location: Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04	Proctotrupoidea female not winged....first attempt! cthirion


Gerard Pennards	#3 Posted on 12-11-2006 23:13
Member Location: Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04	Hmmm, My vote would go for Ceraphronoidea, so the choice is between Ceraphronidae or Megaspilidae. If I would have to put money on it, I'd vote for Ceraphronidae! Greetings, Gerard Greetings, Gerard Pennards


jorgemotalmeida	#4 Posted on 13-11-2006 01:34
Member Location: Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06	Gerard Pennards wrote: Hmmm, My vote would go for Ceraphronoidea, so the choice is between Ceraphronidae or Megaspilidae. If I would have to put money on it, I'd vote for Ceraphronidae! Greetings, Gerard why you think this wasp can be Ceraphronoidea? which characters in photo told you that coud be that family? Thank you! Perhaps it would help to see a much bigger size. Take a look on this size: http://www.flickr...630&size=o Proctoss... appears! I wish to know which can be this termite too. The photo needs total ID, at least, genus level. Thank you. Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 13-11-2006 02:05


Paul Beuk	#5 Posted on 13-11-2006 08:46
Super Administrator Location: Posts: 19208 Joined: 11.05.04	Hmm, I would not be surpised if it was Scelionidae either... Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info


jorgemotalmeida	#6 Posted on 13-11-2006 11:38
Member Location: Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06	Proctotrupoidea, Ceraphronoidea, Scelionidae .... so many guess.. it is not easy. see the bigger image, it could help to realize which this wasp could be... Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 13-11-2006 13:51


jorgemotalmeida	#7 Posted on 14-11-2006 11:22
Member Location: Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06	please... who can help on ID of this wasp?


Gerard Pennards	#8 Posted on 14-11-2006 15:38
Member Location: Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04	Well Jorge, As you see (by the answers given so far) the problem is that on the picture there are not enough details visible to put a name on it with certainty. Our guesses go into the same direction, because Proctotrupoidea, Ceraphronoidea and Scelionidae are close relatives within Hymenoptera. People like me see the picture and a name pops up in the head, but only based on the general appearence, not based on clear characters in the picture. It will be hard to come to a definite conclusion if the specimen is not available! Greetings, Greetings, Gerard Pennards


jorgemotalmeida	#9 Posted on 14-11-2006 16:05
Member Location: Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06	Hi ok. I see. And if we advance with Dryinidae family? No, I don?t have the specimen. Perhaps Proctoss can give us some clues!